[Johny Cash]

Just picked up a pair of New Balance RC152's very nice! How long before my calves stop killing me chet?

[Simon Primal]

Jet, on Nov 7 2008, 07:23 PM, said:

But you get stronger,faster,have less aches and pains and can go farther with regular running anyway.Why overcomplicate one of the basic abilities inherited over thousands of years of evolution?
Just seems a bit silly......like power walking......

The problem is Jet, that we already have over complicated one of the basic abilities inherited over thousands of years of evolution.

In an ideal world, we would all be able to run, just as we would all be able to squat. Unfortunately modern living means many people can do neither.

Try running with a heel strike in bare feet - Consider the fact that evolutionary speaking, shoes have not been around for very long, still think this is a genetically inherited way to run? There has been a lot of research that actually shows wearing running trainers with cushioned soles actually increases the impact through the joints by encouraging a higher impact running gate.

Vibrams are a great way to get back to bare foot running, and you can buy special socks to go inside to stop them from stinking!

Worse still than running in cushioned soles however, is lifting in them. It boggles my brain when I see numerous reputable coaches on internet vids teaching Olympic and Powerlifts to people wearing running shoes.

[GuiltyCol]

> It boggles my brain when I see numerous reputable coaches on internet vids teaching Olympic and Powerlifts to people wearing running shoes.

I forgot my lifting shoes when going down the gym once, and ended up doing back squats in some Nike's with air cushions in the heels. The difference was astonishing, it was all wibbly (technical term ) at the bottom of the squat.

[Johny Cash]

Since POSE running I've started wearing flat shoes for everything mainly VANS. Had to wear a pair of shoes with thick heel today, my legs were agony all day long.

[Jet]

Simon Primal, on Jan 14 2009, 08:55 AM, said:

The problem is Jet, that we already have over complicated one of the basic abilities inherited over thousands of years of evolution.

In an ideal world, we would all be able to run, just as we would all be able to squat. Unfortunately modern living means many people can do neither.

Try running with a heel strike in bare feet - Consider the fact that evolutionary speaking, shoes have not been around for very long, still think this is a genetically inherited way to run? There has been a lot of research that actually shows wearing running trainers with cushioned soles actually increases the impact through the joints by encouraging a higher impact running gate.

Vibrams are a great way to get back to bare foot running, and you can buy special socks to go inside to stop them from stinking!

Worse still than running in cushioned soles however, is lifting in them. It boggles my brain when I see numerous reputable coaches on internet vids teaching Olympic and Powerlifts to people wearing running shoes.

I wasn't aware that shoes were such a problem tbh.My running tech seems naturally o.k.I run in converse now and my form is pretty much the same as it was in my hi-tec silver shadows(i know they're dated but they're comfy...and smelly).Also i never lift in soft shoes...i like my kneecaps where they are.
Anyhoo,it never occurred to me prior to this thread that shoes caused so many problems.
Consider me enlightenend on the matter.

[Chet]

POSE Skills and Drills - from CrossFit.com

[Mister C]

Question to those of you who run with this technique - do you POSE walk too? I.e., do you forefoot strike when walking around normally, and then kick up with the heel towards your butt on pushing off?
(This is based on my limited understanding of POSE running technique, so feel free to correct).

[greg]

i tend to walk using the entirity of my foot. I do find though that walking barefoot feels more "difficult" than running barefoot


edit: I try to loosely follow pose, i've not had any formal training in it. I figure if you run barefoot you will end up approximating it anyway

[DanM]

I have tried to translate the POSE running technique to walking, but I've come to the conclusion that if you try and forefoot strike while walking, you will look like a twat!

When I'm walking around in my VFFs, I tend to strike with the heel and forefoot simultaneously, maybe even a slight heel strike.

[greg]

i figure that the faster you go the more you go on your forefront. So from a standstill you would be on your heels, and at a full sprint you would be entirely on your forefront with heels highly elevated.


i watched erwan le corre (qualified in POSE, and also barefooter of 18 years) walk, and noted that he walked using the entirety of his foot, though this was on grass, not sure how hard surfaces affect him.

[marcus clarke]

Heres a little question I'd like to throw out there. Who actually does that CF POSE running?

Fo a laugh I tried it whilst doing sprint races in PT last friday. My main effort was to kick my heels up to my arse whilst angling my body forward and using forward momentum.

I was surprised at how fast I was going with less effort than normal sprinting (as i have quite a long bound)

I was coming first in our group for the sprints. But the thing is I don't think I could hold that style of running for prolonged periods, just short sprints.

Anyone else dabbled in POSE running?

[greg]

i find my running becomes more "natural" the faster i go.

I loosely try to follow POSE, I run barefoot so it should end up something like that. I had erwan le corre analyse my running too, and he seemed to think it was ok.

[FK Pimp]

I like to think i have been pose running for a while but in reality it is probably somewhere short of full POSE (probably more just fore foot striking. Have bought the DVD now though and will be going for it proper over the winter. like the idea of bare foot as well but not sure it will work for me for the next year or so due to long distance running goals.