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Posted 15 July 2010 - 10:21 AM

I was sitting around with a very close friend who I served with during my military service many moons ago, he is still a serving soldier. He has basically been in combat every year since 1990 and has seen more and done more from a combat stand point than men who served in WW2! That's 20 years of active service. (He is on leave from Afghan)

We were watching the Tour-de-France & chatting sh#t as we do and then the commentator started talking about Lance Armstrong and his 'extraordinary feats' etc. My mucker then goes:

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"What a load of bo##ox, he is a fcuking sports man, they act like its life or death for FFS, I know he over came cancer, well so did my mum and thousands of others!!!."


Fair one. He carries on:

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"It was that d##k head that came up with that quote 'Pain is just weakness leaving the body'. I just want to slot any f##ker that uses that, pain is weakness leaving the body!!! My arse, its just f###ing pain, pain is pain and what the f##k does any one who plays or does sport or trains know about pain?? f##k all, that's what they know!"


And it went on a little while longer:-(

Just a quick point he does not have tourettes.

However, whether you agree or not? He does have a point, pain isn't weakness leaving the body, it is just pain. The word pain is another word that has truly lost its meaning and is overused by most, especially in this training world that we frequent.
Training hard only really illicit's a discomfort not pain and it is usually the trainers mind that gives in to that discomfort, That is weakness, not giving in to pain, there is a difference and I think we would do well to remember that, I include myself in that, and I should know better.
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"Don't get hung up on the stopwatch or times, or even weight lifted, think about technique, technique, technique and listening to your body. You will not perform better every session and that is set in stone. Test your self every month keep a written journal not just a forum, a place where you can keep personal notes that you can read to motivate yourself. Don't compare yourself to others when you are working out and likewise do not think that you are already fit as fcuk!!! As someone will always be in front and behind you, ultimate confidence in your abilities yes, but arrogance no, there is a fine line.
But most of all do the things you hate above the things you like or are good at, this will make you a better athlete. Save the things you like for recreational sessions. But ultimately enjoy it, even when you hate it! And finally remember the mind will always give in before the body!"

Here endeth the lesson.

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 02:03 PM

I see his point but still think it's a valid saying. From the standpoint that feeling pain during training I think is a perception thing a lot of time so once you break down a pain barrier once then you feel stronger the next time (I'm experiencing this regularly at the moment). As for what a sportsman or any other non-com feels as pain the we all hold our individual perceptions on that. What did your mate reckon was pain? Getting shot? Breaking bones? I've never been shot but I've broken bones, dislocated shoulders all of which are painful and I still maintain some training i would view as pain. I guess it's relative.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 01:58 PM

I detest "No Pain, No gain" and it's overuse too. It's used as a carte blanche for poor trainers to beast their clients without considering what is best for them.
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Posted 26 July 2010 - 02:48 PM

Have to say I quite like "no pain, no gain" in the right situation. in most of the things I do pain is a major aspect and I believe you have to embrace it and to understand why you have pain. I agree that a flat out no pain no gain is obviously crap it help me to motivate myself sometimes. At the end of the day these are just motivational mantras which people may or may not find useful at any given time. you'll find a lover and a hater for everything...
"Pain is weakness leaving the body"
"If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready"
"The mind always gives out before the body. You’ll pass out before you die."
"We'll be as we are when all the fools around us fade away"
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